| Long
Leaf Pine |
edniz |
| Nov
07, 2004 03:19 PST |
Hello,
I get a
variety of book catalogs and I wanted to mention one book
that is currently available from University of North
Carolina Press. The
title is Looking for Longleaf The Fall
and Rise of an American Forest by
Lawrence S. Earley. Publication date is 2004. Sale price
is $25.00. Here
is the blurb from the catalog:
"A learned stroll through the shady groves of the
South, past and present. .
. . Richly detailed, impeccably researched, and at times
controversial:
this merits a place alongside Bartram in the library
devoted to the South."
Ed Nizalowski
Newark Valley, NY |
| Re:
Long Leaf Pine and more |
Fores-@aol.com |
| Nov
07, 2004 05:32 PST |
Bob:
There is a lot currently happening in terms of
appreciating longleaf pine
and the significance of the longleaf pine forest ecosystem
that once covered
more than 30,000,000 acres of the south. From what I
understand there is less
than 300,000 acres of this forest type left today.
Russ |
| RE:
Book on the Long Leaf Pine and more |
Robert
Leverett |
| Nov
08, 2004 05:42 PST |
Russ:
I once heard a lecture by Bill Pratt of
LSU on the longleaf pine
ecosystem and its unusual fire adaptations. The lecture
was at the
University of Arkansas in October 1995. I've often
wondered what may
have changed in the way of our understanding since then.
Bill Pratt had a dry sense of humor and
he enjoyed picking on
ecologists from the Northeast who he regarded as being a
little too
fixated on the forest disturbance regimes of the
Northeast. I didn't
have an opinion on the subject, but enjoyed watching the
good-natured
jocking between Pratt and a couple of northeastern
ecologists.
I came away with a better appreciation
for the nature of the
competition among scientists to gain acceptance of and
dominance for
their ideas. The general public often thinks of science as
monolithic
and of scientists as unswervingly objective - not personal
agendas.
Well, certainly scientists are supposed to be that way and
I believe
most make an admirable effort, but human nature IS human
nature.
At any rate, at the Arkansas conference,
Pratt argued eloquently for
the role of evolutionary fire adaptation as another model
to explain the
patterns of forest colonization and succession. I wonder
what the
current state is of those theories.
Bob
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 3:35 am
From: neil
Thanks Ed,
Longleaf pine ecosystems, when healthy/managed well, are some of
the
most beautiful & diverse ecosystems in the eastern US. And,
the tree can
live at least 500 yrs. Hard to beat that.
I would suggest one article to an abbreviated bibliography of
longleaf
pine. I suggest adding the article on Leon Neel, considered in
this
article the 'fire prophet' of longleaf pine. I'm not so sure about
that
title. I do know he is the person people go to to learn how to
manage
longleaf pine ecosystems:
http://www.sherpaguides.com/georgia/fire_forest/leon_neel/index.html
neil
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 5:24 am
From: James Parton
Will F,
I have noticed needles vary in length in all pines. White, Pitch,
Virginia, Shortleaf as well as the Southern Yellow Pines.
JP
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 7:09 pm
From: Will Fell
I went out last week near my house and took several photos on
Longleaf
Pines of various ages and uploaded them to the file page. This
after
the discussion of the needle length of Longleaf Pine. One of the
photos shows a Longleaf in the "grass stage". It is the
clump of green
in the center of the photo. Compare it to the clumps of wiregrass
in
the foreground and right of the photo.
I also added a few more photo Spring Flowers
2008
of Dogwoods and Azaleas in Bloom down here. The Dogwoods are the
prettiest I can remember in years. The blooms were large and
flawless,
normally the dogwood blooms around this section are not this
brilliant.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 2 2008 7:57 pm
From: Larry
ENTS, I noticed this year that the Longleafs are loaded with
cones.
They haven't had any the last few years. After Hurricane Katrina
most
were blown off, none grew untill last year, they are now at there
mature point.
They can remain on the tree for several years then when
conditions are right they drop. The cones are 7-9" long and
when green
are lethal projectiles during storms. I also measured some of
needles
on the Longleafs to 13 ", they can grow to 15. When they open
the
seeds Helicopter down to the ground. Maybe I can collect some when
they fall. I'll post a photo on the file page. Getting quite warm
down
here, Bob. 92 and lots of Humidity! Larry
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 2 2008 8:16 pm
From: James Parton
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 10:28 am
From: Will Fell
The Longleaf has a good cone crop every 7-10 years and they are
loaded
over here in SE Georgia also. The Longleaf cone takes two years to
develop and this is the year of seed fall in Sept and Oct. Also An
old
growth LL stand is impressively beautiful, but the tree doesn't
reach
the sizes of Loblolly, even at 500 years. Not sure why, perhaps
because the largest Lobs are in much more fertile sites where LL
can't
compete. Some of the best remaining old growth LL stands are in
the
red hills area north of Tallahasee around Thomasville GA. There
are
several thousand acres on the Greenwood Plantation the the Nature
Conservancy recently aquired. http://www.nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/georgia/press/press1785.html
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 3:57 pm
From: Gary Smith
Larry/ENTS
Good observations on this thread about one of my real favorites,
longleaf pine. The trees in my neck of the woods also seem to be
developing a good number of cones this year
Will is right in that longleaf does not make for as big a tree as
loblolly, still, I enjoy seeing those flat-topped survivors with a
little lean to them. The longleaf pine
ecosystem that once dominated the lower South was supposed to have
been one of the greatest for the sheer number of plant species in
the
undergrowth. A natural stand of longleaf pines is normally not
that
thick in trees, and the sound of gentle wind blowing through them
carrying the scent of pine is wonderful.
gs
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 13 2008 4:59 am
From: neil
Larry,
that is an interesting observation of longleaf pine cone crops. a
colleague, John Kush of Auburn University, had a feeling cone
crops
follow hurricanes. we haven't confirmed that hypothesis.
longleaf pine generally masts very irregularly, with some
exceptions
towards the norther end of its range. here is a nice study by Bill
Boyer, USFS longleaf pine researcher, on long-term observations of
longleaf pine cone crop production:
http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/972
- Bill has a lifetime of
longleaf pine observations [literally].
related to that work: Bill noted that there had been an increase
in cone
crop frequency and production across its range since the
mid-1980s. here
is a paper that is exploring the climatic connections to longleaf
pine
production: http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/2299
neil
ENTS, The Long Leaf Pine Cone drop was plentiful and looks
like it
was in mid Dec. I gathered up a couple of unopened cones to
retrieve
some seeds. The cones are the size of Footballs, 9" long and 4"
wide.
They have remained on the trees for 3 and 1/2 years. I hope to
grow
some from seed, these cones are off trees at my Dads place and
are 75
years old. I'll post a photo of the cones on the file page.
Larry
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