Hollow trees as chimneys?   Carl Harting
  Sep 18, 2005 19:12 PDT 

ENTS,

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Afterwards I walked up to the top of the ridge and measured a hemlock
snag I’d found a couple weeks before. Circumference was 13.0 feet and
the height was 24.9 feet. It was interesting because it was hollow the
whole way up, and most of the inside was charred black from fire.
Looking up through the trunk I noticed that the limbs extended both
outside and inside the trunk, as if they were arrows shot through the
wood. 

Scott Wade posted a photo of a hollow tree in Eastern PA that was
also burned inside and I’m wondering if hollow trees were simply
convenient places to have a fire, or if they were charred from some
other use - some antique industrial use perhaps? Or do they simply serve
as a record of some past forest fire? This tree stands near an old
earthworks, possibly an old charcoal furnace. I’ve sent a couple photos
of this tree to Ed as well.

Carl

Re: Hollow trees as chimneys?   Lee Frelich
  Sep 18, 2005 19:29 PDT 


Carl:

I have seen many such trees across the continent. Most were hollow from
some sort of heart rot, and burned after being struck by lightning. The air
flow from the hollow creates a spectacular fire in hollow trees that are
open to the atmosphere, whereas the hollow ones without openings explode
due to the steam and pressure buildup caused by the lightning.

Lee
Re: Hollow trees as chimneys?   Edward Frank
  Sep 18, 2005 20:26 PDT 

Carl,

Have you ever played much with a fire as you burn brush and trash? If you
put a box open at both end vertically on the fire it really takes off. The
flamesand heat make the air rush up through the box and creates a draft at
the base of the box that sucks air through the fire. This really gets the
fire going strong. It will roar and send tongues of flames skyward through
the box until the box collapses. Then the fire returns to normal levels.
If a hollow tree is set afire by lightning, I would guess a similar process
would create a wooden "blast furnace" running through the interior of the
hollow trunk.

Ed
Re: Hollow trees as chimneys?   Fores-@aol.com
  Sep 19, 2005 06:33 PDT 
ENTS:

Many years ago when I was a young forester working in Western Montana for
the USFS we would often use hollow trees for our lunch fires, especially on
those days when the temperature was struggling to get above 0 degrees. In most
cases the trees were just hollowed out but sometimes nearly solid pitch
branch stubs filled the center of the tree like nails on a board. Most trees just
burned hot and gave us a nice lunch fire but I can remember a particularly
tall western larch that was broken off at about 120 feet....we didn't know
until the fire was set that the entire length of the tree was hollow and the
black smoke from the pitch was so thick that the ranger station forty miles away
got calls about a plane crash....the flames shot about another 50 feet from
the top of the tree and the roar was louder than any single tree fire I can
ever remember. My crew boss almost got fired for starting the tree because
the location on the mountain on a crystal clear Montana winter day made the
smoke visible for almost 100 miles.

Russ Richardson
Re: Hollow trees as chimneys?   Michele Wilson
  Sep 20, 2005 10:51 PDT 
sounds like a fun misadventure, part of what working as a forester is all about! It musta looked like a medieval lantern... I would've loved to have seen it from the next ridge over!

michele

Re: Hollow trees as chimneys?   Fores-@aol.com
  Sep 20, 2005 13:32 PDT 
Michele:

It was a crystal blue winter day with a high temperature of about 6 degrees
at noon. There wasn't a whisper of wind that day and when the pitch on the
inside of the hollow tree ignited the fire roared like a jet engine shooting a
plume of thick black smoke several hundred feet into the air....that is why
the crew boss got in trouble!!

Russ