| Chestnut
Notes |
Edward
Frank |
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Mar
05, 2007 20:30 PST |
ENTS,
Another encounter with some old chestnut snags has again peaked
my interest in American Chestnut trees. I have some
correspondence and a couple of links I wanted to share with all
of you. Neil Pederson has a nice listing of American an Chestnut
ages in his Eastern Old-List - specifically on this page: http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~adk/oldlisteast/Spp/CADE.html
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Greg Weaver of ACF wrote: (regarding chestnut cross-sections and
stump specimens)
I know of a rotten 11.5 ft diameter chestnut stump on the Ramsay
Cascades trail (photo published in the spring 2003 edition of
the Journal of the American Chestnut Foundation), but it is too
rotten for coring.
Probably for what you need, the best I can think of are on the
Rainbow Falls trail. There are several ~4ft diameter chestnut
logs in the first half mile of the rainbow falls trail that
could probably be cored. These are the best candidates that I
can think of offhand. They are easy to find, off the left side
of the trail.
There is a large standing trunk about 70 ft tall and 14 ft in
circumference in the first 1.5 miles of the Gregory Bald trail
in Cades Cove. It is about 50 yards off the trail to the left
and a little hard to find in the summer because of the
undergrowth, but it could probably be found now. It may be
hollow, however, I can't tell from looking at the base. It is
the largest standing trunk that I know of.
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There are some photos of chestnut stumps on the Cumberland
Plateau, TN and KY on these pages:
http://www2.volstate.edu/JSchibig/chestnutphotossummer2005.htm
http://www2.volstate.edu/jschibig/summer2004b.htm
http://www2.volstate.edu/JSchibig/cdentatastumpsmetcalfecoky.htm
http://www2.volstate.edu/jschibig/AmericanChestnStump&Sprouts,LBL,1975.htm
http://www.tnchestnut.org/Meetings/savagegulfhikeaug2005.htm
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American Chestnut Tree http://www.chattoogariver.org/index.php?req=chestnut&quart=W2002
Article about the American Chestnut Tree, reprinted from
American Forestry, October, 1915.
For more information see The American Chestnut Foundation http://www.acf.org/
and the American Chestnut Cooperators' Foundation http://ipm.ppws.vt.edu/griffin/accf.html |
| More
American Chestnut notes |
Edward
Frank |
| Mar
06, 2007 08:15 PST |
ENTS,
Here are a couple of examples older ring count data:
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First from Dr. Greg Weaver of the Tennessee Chapter of ACF
I do have a copy of a newspaper article from the Scottsville
(KY) Argus Sept 6, 1876 that reads:
"A chestnut tree was cut down on the premises of Mr. S. J.
Read in this county a few days ago which measured 9 feet across
at the base, from which he obtained six cuts that made 700
rails. Mr. Read counted the pores of the tree and allowing one
for each year made it 230 years old."
[[That is a growth rate of 0.235 inches/year very similar to the
number Larry has been getting for Live Oaks ...EFF]]
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Second from Dr. Sandra Anagnostakis of the Conn. Agric. Expt.
Station - I am sure Topica will mess up the tables, but perhaps
the pattern in the individual or group emails will be OK
Austin F. Hawes, 1906. Chestnut in Connecticut and the
improvement of the woodlot. CT Agricultural Experiment Station
Bulletin 154, 41 pages.
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Hawes
1906
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age,
years
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dbh,
inches
|
|
19
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3
|
|
22
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4
|
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25
|
5
|
|
29
|
6
|
|
32
|
7
|
|
35
|
8
|
|
39
|
9
|
|
42
|
10
|
|
45
|
11
|
|
48
|
12
|
|
51
|
13
|
|
55
|
14
|
|
58
|
15
|
|
61
|
16
|
|
64
|
17
|
|
68
|
18
|
|
71
|
19
|
|
74
|
20
|
|
78
|
21
|
|
81
|
22
|
|
84
|
23
|
|
88
|
24
|
|
91
|
25
|
|
94
|
26
|
|
97
|
27
|
|
101
|
28
|
|
104
|
29
|
|
108
|
30
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Earl H. Frothingham, 1912. Second-growth hardwoods in
Connecticut.
USDA Forest Service Bulletin 96, 59 pages.
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Frothingham,
1912
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1st
quality
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2nd
quality
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3rd
quality
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|
age,
years
|
dbh,
inches
|
dbh,
inches
|
dbh,
inches
|
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15
|
3.2
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2.6
|
2
|
|
20
|
4.4
|
3.6
|
2.7
|
|
25
|
5.4
|
4.5
|
3.5
|
|
30
|
6.4
|
5.3
|
4.3
|
|
35
|
7.3
|
6.1
|
5
|
|
40
|
8.1
|
6.8
|
5.6
|
|
45
|
8.9
|
7.5
|
6.2
|
|
50
|
9.6
|
8.2
|
6.8
|
|
55
|
10.3
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8.8
|
7.3
|
|
60
|
10.9
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9.4
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7.8
|
|
65
|
11.6
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9.9
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8.3
|
|
70
|
12.2
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10.5
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8.7
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|
75
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12.8
|
11
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9.2
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| Re:
More American Chestnut notes |
Neil
Pederson |
| Mar
06, 2007 18:58 PST |
Ed,
this is real interesting info. from the few data sets available,
it seems
Am. chestnut was, as they might say in New England, a wicked growth
- much
like live oak. northern red oak can be in that category, though
to a lesser
degree. except for the population on Wachusett Mtn, most red oak
populations
I've cored [about 25 populations now], are very fast growing.
they can be
large in diameter - > 0.5m DBH - and often 90-150 yrs old.
there are
exceptions, of course.
neil
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| Re:
More American Chestnut notes |
Edward
Frank |
| Mar
08, 2007 12:38 PST |
Neil,
ENTS,
I was curious about chestnut cookies and historical tree ring
counts so I wrote a note to the American Chestnut Foundation and
the American Chestnut Cooperators' Foundation. I received a
pretty good response and I posted the relevant information to
the ENTS list.
Is there a repository that can be searched for individual tree
ring counts that are not part of series of ten+ that are
required in most cases by ITRDB? For example the cucumbertree
stuff from the sampling in VA would not show up in the web
search of the ITRDB website.
Ed
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| Re:
More American Chestnut notes |
Neil
Pederson |
| Mar
08, 2007 16:21 PST |
Ed,
ENTS,
The ITRDB is the repository for tree ring measurements. Not all
published
data is in the data bank; much published data has not been
deposited to the
data bank. Most tree ring people are even less inclined to
deposit data from
one or two trees. Some folks wait until they have used data in
its intended
publication. The cucumbertree data, for example, will be used in
another pub
- it was not intended to be used as a max age data point.
I am not aware of other tree ring data banks.
sorry,
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