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TOPIC: White Nosed Syndrome summary
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 5:40 pm
From: Edward Frank
Forwarded Message: Dear caver/ outdoor enthusiast, There has
been some sad and important news in the world of caving this winter.
Many bats in the Northeastern United States have been killed by what
is being called White Nosed Syndrome or WNS. Biologists and
ecologists from the NY Dept of Environmental Conservation as well as
the National Speleological Society (NSS) are currently performing
studies into the reasons for a recent spread of the syndrome in
caves near upstate New York. Last month, cavers in Morris Cave, VT
noticed a large population of bats killed by WNS. This cave is over
110 km away from the nearest known cases, thus a concern for the
distance in which it is spreading. It is possible that the cause of
the spread is from cavers not cleaning/ washing their gear after use
in possibly infected caves, however, the actual cause of the spread
is unknown. The NSS is looking into the reason for the spread and
trying to protect the remaining caves in the Northeast United States
that host large populations of bats. Local caving organizations are
asking all outdoor enthusiasts and cavers to report any case of WNS
on bats, inside or outside of caves, to The Loyalhanna Grotto at loyalhannagrotto@yahoo.com
f you would like more information on recognizing White Nosed
Syndrome or WNS, you can visit the following websites: The NY -
Dept. of Environmental Conservation www.dec.ny.gov/press/41621.html
Vermont Fish and Wildlife www.vtfishandwildlife.com/detail.cfm?agency__ID=1273
Bat Management and Conservation www.batmanagement.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1199773599/0#7
Sincerely, Douglas Fulton, Chairperson, Loyalhanna Grotto
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:13 pm
From: James Parton
Ed,
I remember seeing cute little pipistrel bats in Linville caverns
here
in WNC last summer. They all looked healthy.
James P.
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:36 pm
From: "Edward Frank"
James,
Many of the bat species live outside in the summer in hollow trees,
in crevices in the bark, in peoples attics, in bat shelters, They
fly around lakes, and campfires, as well as caves, and mines. We
have plenty of opportunity to see them once the weather warms. If
one stops where you can see it, being able to tell by visual signs
that the bat had this ailment, it would be useful information to the
bat researchers looking at the spread of the disease. If encountered
in the hibernating state - do not disturb them. Frequent disturbance
uses up their fat reserves and they may not survive the winter. A
brief light on them is not generally bather them. The signs of this
disease are:
The most obvious symptom involved in the die-off is a white fungus
encircling the noses of some, but not all, of the bats. Called
"white nose syndrome," the fungus is believed to be
associated with the problem, but it may not necessarily contribute
to the actual cause of death. It appears that the impacted bats
deplete their fat reserves months before they would normally emerge
from hibernation, and die as a result. The one website reports:
"Most bat researchers would agree that this is the gravest
threat to bats they have ever seen."
Currently the outbreak is known only from NY and VT but it could be
spreading elsewhere, and they need to know this information.
Ed Frank
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?" --Albert Einstein
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TOPIC: White Nosed Syndrome summary
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:54 pm
From: Mollie Matteson
Folks,
It would be of interest to me hear your thoughts/ knowledge
regarding
bats' use of/need for late successional and old-growth forest, and
the impacts of logging on them--in particular the federally listed
Indiana bat.
The Center for Biological Diversity, for which I now work, sent a
letter to the US Fish and Wildlife Service last week, requesting
that
it use its authority to close all hibernacula harboring endangered
bat species in the East to recreational use until the cause of the
white-nose syndrome is understood and can be addressed. The letter
also asked that the FWS suspend all incidental take permits for
endangered bats on federal lands--this could affect logging projects
on national forests, and possibly other activities. While the WNS is
showing up in hibernating bats, their populations may be so
drastically affected by winter's end that we may not be able to
afford to lose any additional bats for any reason, including to
summer time mortality. CBD will continue to monitor the actions of
the feds and the state fish and wildlife agencies to make sure all
that can possibly be done, is done, to address this terrible threat.
Mollie Matteson
P.S. If you wish to contact me at work about this matter, my email is
mmatteson@biologicaldiversity.org , and work phone is
802-434-2388.
~~~~~~
PO Box 551
37 Hapgood Lane
Richmond, VT 05477
"The heart that breaks open can contain the whole
universe."
--Joanna Macy
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 9:25 pm
From: DON BERTOLETTE
Mollie-
While working at Grand Canyon NP, I recall presentations put on by
wildlife biologists where it was shown that bats would commonly
inhabit the space created on large standing dead ponderosa pines by
bark shifting/breaking with lost of adhesion to summerwood. From
there, they detailed their success in creating bat habitat by
'installing' bark pieces with appropriate dimensions, etc. for bat
habitation.
I know that the East doesn't have large o-g ponderosa pines, but
I'll bet the bats are just as happy with eastern species old enough
to have created the right sized interstitial spaces...
-Don Bertolette
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Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 6:48 am
From: Beth Koebel
Mollie and Don B,
I have heard that bats "sleep" under the bark of Carya
ovata and C. laciniosa, Shagbark and Shellbark
Hickories respectively.
Beth
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 6:52 am
From: "William Morse"
yes, a favorite place for the endangered Indiana Bat. Travis
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 7:55 am
From: dbhguru@comcast.net
Don,
I have read that India Brown Bats like hollowed sycamores, at least
in the Mid-west. I wouldn't be surprised if bats didn't make use of
sycamores in the Northeast as well.
Bob
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 8:25 am
From: DON BERTOLETTE
Bob-
Every since Hatfield, I've had a sense of reverence for those
"hallowed" sycamores!
-Don
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Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 7:47 pm
From: "Edward Frank"
The message below has been sent by the New Jersey Department of
Environmental Protection.
MYSTERIOUS ILLNESS KILLING BATS IN NORTHEAST PROMPTS PRECAUTIONS AS
WILDLIFE RESEARCHERS SEARCH FOR ANSWERS
(O8/08) TRENTON * Amid mounting concern over the unexplained deaths
of
thousands of hibernating bats in New York and Vermont, Department of
Environmental Protection Commissioner Lisa P. Jackson today advised
the public to avoid entering any caves and mines that might harbor
the
creatures until wildlife experts know more about the problem.
"We have not yet found any evidence of disease among New
Jersey's
wintering bat populations," Commissioner Jackson said.
"But until
experts fully understand how and why bats in other states are dying,
and whether it's possible for people to carry this mysterious
illness
from one cave to another, it is best to take precautions and keep
out
of places in which they hibernate."
Hikers, photographers and spelunkers are among those who frequent
abandoned mines, caves and other locations that likely shelter
hibernating bats.
Wildlife officials are calling the illness "white nose
syndrome"
because the most obvious symptom is a white fungus that forms around
the noses of some, but not all, of the afflicted bats. Researchers
do
not yet know if the fungus actually causes death, but they have
observed that bats with white nose syndrome deplete their fat
reserves
months before they would normally emerge from hibernation, and die
as
a result.
In the coming weeks, New Jersey biologists will survey the state's
largest known hibernaculum to look for bats exhibiting symptoms of
the
disease. To date, there is no information showing people have been
affected after exposure to the white fungus, so human-health
implications remain unknown.
Last year, in several caves near Albany, NY., up to 11,000 bats *
more
than half of that area's wintering po pulation * were found dead,
and
many showed symptoms of the mysterious disease. Biologists this year
are again seeing the white fungus on bats hibernating in New York
and
southwest Vermont. Because bats migrate hundreds of miles to their
summer range, impacts to hibernating bats can have significant
implications for the species throughout the Northeast.
Bat biologists across the country are evaluating strategies to
monitor
the presence of the disease and collect specimens for laboratory
analysis. To avoid the possibility of spreading the disease,
biologists are taking precautions, using sanitary clothing and
respirators when entering caves.
The affected species include the Indiana bat, listed as endangered
in
New Jersey and nationwide. Wildlife experts report that little brown
bats are sustaining the largest number of deaths, along with
northern
long-eared, eastern pipistrelle and other bat species using the same
caves.
Hibernating bats are particularly vulnerable to disease or
disturbance
because they congregate in large numbers in caves and mines, forming
tight clusters of 300 per square foot in some locations. Of the tens
of thousands of bats known to hibernate in New Jersey, most occupy a
handful of abandoned mines.
To: VARLIST@LISTSERV.VT.EDU
Subject: Sinnett-Thorn CLOSURE
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:51:55 +0000
All,
There is a bat disease with a 50-90% mortality rate that has been
found in NY (2 years ago) and recently, Vermont. Nobody knows how
this
disease spreads. For more information on this disease, please read
the
information below.
Sinnett-Thorn is host to the Virginia big-ear bat, an endangered bat
species, for both hibernation and nursery purposes. Until this
disease
is no longer a problem, or we figure out that it is not spread
though
caving activities, I am cancelling all trips in Sinnett-Thorn until
further notice. I hope to (plan to) open the cave next fall as
scheduled; please keep an eye on the website for the latest
information This is a preventative measure; no signs of the disease
have been observed in Sinnett.
The NSS is closing all its North East region cave preserves, though
at
this time, the Trout caves are not closed.
I'm very sorry to do this, but would like to wait for more
information
until permitting access again.
Please do not go about looking for this disease in other caves.
Consider avoiding caves with bat populations until we know more
about
this. Frustrating, I know, but I hope a solution/explanation is
found
soon and that this is just a temporary thing.
The caving community is taking steps to prevent the spread of this
disease, though the effectiveness of the procedures is untested and
unknown. Please read and follow the information listed below to help
slow down/eliminate the spread of this disease.
If you have any concerns or comments please let me know.
Thank you for your understanding, support, and cooperation.
Patricia A. Bingham
Manager, Sinnett-Thorn Mountain Cave
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TOPIC: Bats- White Nose Syndromw
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Date: Thurs, Mar 6 2008 9:21 pm
From: "Edward Frank"
ENTS,
I mentioned White Nose Syndrome in Bats a couple months ago. The
issue was butchered by CBS news a couple days ago on their evening
program. I thought I might pass on some comments made by the caving
community. This in some ways parallels some of our tree research and
conservation efforts.
I would read the bottom email first, paul d.
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From: "Bill Shuman" <bshuman@harborsoftware.com>
To: various
Subject: [psc-cavers] NSS Responsibility and WNS
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:00:53 +0000
NSS Officers and Directors,
I couldn't agree more with the comments of Steve Stokowski in a
recent
email to fellow cavers (see below). There is nothing to connect
cavers
with WNS. In fact, there is evidence suggesting that cavers are NOT
the cause or agent spreading the syndrome. While the actual cause of
this problem is still unknown, it is your job the make sure that
cavers do not become vilified by the public and the press. As Steve
said in his email "What cavers need NOW is leadership from the
officers and directors of the NSS. To date, they have been silent.
They should not be silent any longer. Cavers need the NSS leadership
to be the advocate for the sport of caving." I believe you
should do
the following:
1. Work hard to support, both financially and logistically, the
scientific efforts to determine the actual cause of WNS.
2. Immediately start a publicity campaign to inform the press,
public,
governmental agencies, and scientific community that no evidence has
implicated cavers as being part of the problem and that the caving
community is actively supporting it's quick resolution.
3. Do not close or gate NSS owned caves unnecessarily and without
the
support of the NSS membership.
4. Work hard to preserve landowner relations during this crisis. The
NSS should take the lead in this effort.
If the NSS remains silent and does nothing then caving as a sport
will
be permanently damaged. Many caves will be permanently closed
unnecessarily. As the organization that represents cavers and caving
is is your duty to act.
-Bill Shuman
NSS Member
Annapolis, MD
(Note: Please forward this to any caving lists.. thanks)
Steve Stokowski's Email:
Cavers:
The past performance of the TV and the press indicates that we
should
not anticipate scholarship or even responsible journalism during the
CBS Evening News. In fact, we should expect a tabloid-style
speculation that will have a negative impact on caving for years and
decades to come.
We, as cavers, should be aware that after over 1 year of scientific
investigation, there are no identified infectious agents in the
bats.
There are no significant concentrations of poisons or pollutants in
the dead bats. The fungal growths on the muzzles of the bats, the
basic criteria for identifying affected bat colonies, do not result
in
bat infections or bat deaths. I am not saying, nor should you, that
there are not dead bats and that there are not thousands of missing
bats that are probably dead. However, the bats contain no pathogens,
infectious agents, symptoms of infections, pollutants, or other
reasons for their death. There is no WNS infection of bats. This is
not an infection by any scientific measure.
What is identified as wrong with the bats is that they have NO body
fat in February. There is no identified reason why the bats have no
body fat. Without body fat in February, the bats will starve to
death.
There is not anything that can be done about it, except to feed the
bats, as was done with one bat last year. It lived, the effort was
effective, but isn't statistically valid.
Will cave closures save the small furry creatures? No. Why? Hailes
Cave in NY, the nexus of WNS with about 14,000 missing bats and
about
600 confirmed deaths, has been closed year-round to cavers for
decades; Boston Grotto cavers have not been in this cave since 1970,
if not earlier. The closure of Hailes has not protected bats.
The cave-closure reaction to the WNS issue is affecting cavers. It
is
extremely bad for sport caving. I predict that cavers will be
PERMANENTLY locked out of dozens of caves, regardless of the outcome
of
WNS. Look at what is happening in WV, where there are 44 WNS-closed
caves, while the closest WNS-affected bats are over 450 miles away.
Statements in the press about WNS are turning public opinion against
cavers. Why? Because of the irresponsible statements of biologic
professionals to the press that cavers are somehow responsible for
WNS. To quote Al Hicks, the small mammal specialist of the NYDEC, in
a
NY Times article carried by the AP across the country, "Hicks
said it
is possible that a cave explorer introduced the problem in the
Albany-area caves and that it spread from there. ''It could have
been
some caver in Tanzania with a little mud on his boot and a week
later
he's in a cave in New York,'' he said." Cavers, and not just
cavers in
the northeast, but cavers around the world, are being cast as the
bad
guys. We being made the pariahs of environmental conservation. Being
made a pariah is more than annoying, it is infuriating and it
stinks.
What cavers need NOW is leadership from the officers and directors
of
the NSS. To date, they have been silent. They should not be silent
any
longer. Cavers need the NSS leadership to be the advocate for the
sport of caving. I recommend that you send emails to all of the NSS
officers that you know, and especially to those who should know you.
Their email addresses are on this page:
http://www.caves.org/nss-business/bog/Current%20Personnel.pdf
Tell
Bill, Ray, Gordon, Peri, Cheryl, Jim, Doug, Linda, Ted, Gary, Jay,
Lee, John, Bill, Gary, Kevin, and Debra to start advocating for the
rights of cavers.
Steve Stokowski
NSS 14425
Fellow, NSS
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 6:15 pm
From: JamesRobertSmith
The selfishness of people never fails to amaze me. If there's a
probability that caving by humans is the vector for a disease that
might end up sending another species to extinction, then find other
places where you can engage in your silly little hobby. If I thought
that my hiking into a forest would kill it, I'd find another place
to
hike.
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 7:28 pm
From: "Edward Frank"
James.
Looking at all of the research, and as a member of the National
Seleological Society for 27 years, it is clear that the vector for
the disease is not cavers. Any adverse comment that appears anywhere
about caves or cavers results in the closure of caves across wide
areas. As is noted there are many caves closed in WV hundreds of
miles away from the nearest outbreak. It is the caving community
that has fought to preserve these caves from casual destruction as
part of limestone operations. It is cavers who have prevented land
owners from simply blocking entrances shut to prevent access. This
would have resulted in the loss of the cave habitat for bats and
other troglophile species. It is cavers who spend their own money to
gate caves to preserve hibernaculumns for endangered species like
the Indiana Bat. It is cavers that have fought to get cave
conservation laws passed regarding the trade in speleothems and
killing of bat colonies. But implausible speculation made by idiotic
newscasters, based on "sound bites" taken out of context
is in the process of destroying much of the goodwill and
conservation efforts built up over years of hard work. In spite of
people attending caving get togethers across the country and
visiting caves around the country, the only caves affected are a few
in the northeast. It has not been spread to anywhere else. Even
caves closed to cavers have been affected by the syndrome.
Would you really support closing all of the national forests to
hiking because some newscaster said that hikers were killing the
hemlocks? Especially when you know the cause is the HWA? The effects
are much worse for cavers. People are uncomfortable with the ideas
of caves and bats to begin with, then they have some excuse to
overreact and wham... people do not chase hemlock trees with tennis
rackets but they do bats, because they are afraid of a 1 ounce
animal that purrs when you hold it.
So your reaction is but one of the extreme ends that people have
with respect to caves and bats, and in my opinion entirely
inappropriate. The people in question are simply asking for a
reasoned response to the White Nose Syndrome outbreak in the NE, as
opposed to a Chicken Little approach of the sky is falling by people
who should have a clue about reality. If the evidence supported the
concept that cavers were spreading the disease, these same people
would be calling for closure of these caves and gating of others to
preserve the bat populations. You can argue that this is simply
being cautious since we do not know what is causing these deaths, I
counter that we can tell that some things are not causing the
problem.
The fungus is likely just a response growing on the dead or dying
bats,rather than a cause of the problem. If bat colonies are
repeatedly disturbed over the winter they will burn up too much of
their fat reserves to be able to over winter successfully. they
effects are very similar to those evidenced in the WNS deaths -
there are no fat reserves left in the dead bats. The question then
becomes what is causing this? Are the bats being disturbed in the
winter - in some caves maybe - that is why the caving communities
close caves in the winter during the hibernation periods in caves
containing significant bat colonies. Some of the effected caves are
in caves gated to prevent access, so that is not the most likely
cause. Is something preventing the bats from feeding properly before
hibernation? Perhaps there were false warm periods that caused the
bats to awaken early before there were enough insects to feed them.
Then death resulted when they went back to sleep? There are many
possibilities, but a vector transmitted by the caving community does
not appear to be one of them.
White nose syndrome is a poorly understood condition associated with
the deaths of thousands of bats. The condition, named for a
distinctive ring of fungal growth around the muzzles of many
affected animals, was first identified in several caves near Albany,
New York in January, 2007. The fungus involved in white nose
syndrome has been identified as belonging to the genus Fusarium,
usually associated with plants. The fungal growth may be an
opportunistic infection, rather than the actual cause of the
condition. A loss of winter fat stores[1], pneumonia,[2] and the
disruption of hibernation and feeding cycles caused by warm and
variable winter weather[3] have all been suggested as causes or
contributing factors. In some cases, access to caves is being closed
entirely.[3] Despite these efforts, the spread of the disease to the
Aeolus Cave, New England's largest hibernaculum, which has had
limited human access since 2004, "complicates" the theory
that human activity is contributing to the condition.[4]
[1] Unidentified Ailment Threatens Bat Populations (pdf). U.S. Fish
and Wildlife Service (2008-02-14).
[2} Barid, Joel Banner. "Bat deaths defy diagnosis",
Burlington Free Press, 2008-02-02. Retrieved on 2008-02-14.
[3] a b Munger, Edward, Jr.. "Group asking cavers to keep
out", Daily Gazette, 2008-02-14. Retrieved on 2008-02-14.
[4] ^ Waller, John. "Disease in Dorset bat cave",
Manchester Journal, 2008-02-20. Retrieved on 2008-02-20.
[5] White Nosed Syndrome Website -U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
http://www.fws.gov/midwest/Endangered/mammals/inba/BatAilment.html
[6] Center for North American Bat Research and Conservation, Indiana
State University. http://www.indstate.edu/ecology/centers/bat.htm
[7] Fungus serious threat to NE bats (January 7, 2007) http://www.forums.caves.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&p=50130
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service does not call for closure of
caves to the caving community. Their statement reads:
Message to Cavers
The Service applauds the caving community's strong conservation
ethic and long-time support of bat conservation efforts, and we ask
for your continued cooperation and assistance as we address
white-nose syndrome. It is more important than ever that cavers
continue to observe all existing seasonal cave closures at known
Indiana bat hibernacula, and when possible, to avoid caves or
passages of caves containing large hibernating populations of any
bat species. The Service is not encouraging individual cavers or
caving groups to systematically search for bats with white-nose
syndrome in caves or mines. If, while caving this winter, you
observe a hibernating bat with a white muzzle or other odd white,
fungus-like patches, please follow the interim guidelines below.
a.. Do not touch any bats (living or dead), especially those with a
white muzzle/nose.
b.. If you have a camera with you, please take a few photographs of
the potentially affected bat(s).
c.. Exit the cave immediately, avoiding contact with other bats, and
please do not enter any other caves prior to reporting your
potential WNS observations to your state fish and wildlife agency or
your nearest U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Field Office.
d.. Anyone who observes any unusual numbers of bats outside during
cold weather, especially near a cave or mine where bats hibernate,
is asked to report those observations as well. An increased number
of bats flying outside and increased reports of dead bats in the
vicinity of hibernacula have been observed in affected areas in the
Northeast.
[8] Latest Updates, calendar of events, and additional links from
The National Speleological Society: White Nose Syndrome - A major
problem for both bats and the caving community. http://www.caves.org/grotto/dcg/white-nose.html
So I guess my main point is that the possibility that a human vector
is the cause of the problem is negligible. And that they are being
prevented from participating in their "hobby" by misguided
officials and other members of the landowner community as a result
of bad reporting by the media. As for hobby being a dismissive term,
I want to point out that virtually all of the mapping of cave
systems in this country, all of the dye tracing to define
underground aquifers, almost all of the geological studies to look
at karst processes, almost all of the biological studies of the
cavern ecosystems and cave species are driven, paid for, and
implemented by people participating in their hobby. There is
basically little or no funding for cave research, and it is being
paid for out of the cavers pockets, so it is unfair to vilify the
caving community on the basis of a a few sound bites taken out of
context. (tree researchers are dripping with money when compared to
cavers.)
Edward Frank
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