Saving Seeds and Cuttings

Saving Seeds and Cuttings

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TOPIC: saving seeds and cuttings
http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/browse_thread/thread/0d5300e474dcaf0c?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:21 am
From: TreeFarmer

A lot of discussion about this big tree or that and superior genetics,
but is anyone saving the genetics? At our treefarm we're actively
looking for better,resistance,appearance, structure,unique
characteristics and would like to encourage ENTS members to start
collecting seed and cuttings from trees they think are outstanding
survivors and either grow them out themselves or send them to us so we
can document them and propagate them in quantity and distribute the
seedling trees into the market and in the wild. Among our customers is
the US DOD with site restoration tree programs, and a big plus there
is no logging on military sites. Some of the bases have huge acreages
of big trees protected by chainlink and military policy. It's kinda
hard to imagine the US Army being in the tree saving business but they
do have active protection and planting programs all thanks to EPA
environmental base quality rules dating from the 1970's. Ren

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:46 am
From: Carolyn Summers

Where is your tree farm located? Do you accept mail orders?
--
Carolyn Summers

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:47 am
From: Beth Koebel

Ren and ENTS,

I have 19 acorns from the Illinois State Champion
Black Oak (Q. velutina) if you want them. I collected
them last fall. I have no idea if they are good or
bad. They are available on a first come basis until
they are gone.

Beth

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 9:09 am
From: Gary Smith

One method to test the viability of acorns is to toss them into a
bucket of water.

If they immediately sink.....a good sign.

If they float, and continue to float for, say 5-10 minutes, toss 'em.

Acorns from members of the red oak group, such as black oak, usually
germinate in the early spring after overwintering.

Acorns from members of the white oak group generally germinate soon
after falling.

gs

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 5 2008 10:21 am
From: Ren

We'll give them a good home if they're viable. have they been stored
in the cold?
Lake Tree Farm
7047 Moneta Rd.
Bedford Va. 24523

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 5 2008 10:26 am
From: "Edward Frank"

Ren,

I emailed this on the 3rd, and perhaps this was unread in the shuffle. I want to add my support for the seed collection project you are proposing.

This brings us to the suggestion by TreeFarmer: http://www.laketreefarm.com/ "At our treefarm we're actively looking for better,resistance,appearance, structure,unique characteristics and would like to encourage ENTS members to start collecting seed and cuttings from trees they think are outstanding survivors and either grow them out themselves or send them to us so we can document them and propagate them in quantity and distribute the seedling trees into the market and in the wild. Among our customers is the US DOD with site restoration tree programs, and a big plus there is no logging on military sites. Some of the bases have huge acreages of big trees protected by chainlink and military policy."

I think we should participate in this idea. Especially I would like to see some of the outlier populations of hemlock added to his breeding population, perhaps some samples from the Tionesta Scenic Area which has the worlds oldest known specimens, etc.

Ed Frank

I was sad because I had no onboard fax, until I saw a man who had no mobile phone.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 5 2008 4:56 pm
From: Beth Koebel

They have been in the refrige since last Oct/Nov. I
have checked and thrown any with weeval holes about
every other week or so.

Beth

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TOPIC: saving seeds and cuttings
http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/browse_thread/thread/0d5300e474dcaf0c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 4:33 pm
From: Ren

I'm surprised with all the focus on documentation by very
proffessional folks (more than a simple farmer) in ENTS that other
member don't propagate too? Anyone?? Seems that with the search for
big specimans folks would not only want to document them but save tree
genetics. While ENTS members are on the spot or better yet in the
tree it would seem the ideal time to grab some cones, nuts, seeds or
best yet some tip cuttings (true clones) of the speciman parent. I
propagate more from cuttings than any other way as seed does not
always grow true. A speciman tree bank if you will. Theadore Klein did
this for Holly over 50 years ago and his grove of 500 specimans is a
true genetic Holly bank. I have a number of micro-climates on my
various farms ranging from swamp to cool hollows to dry uplands so can
match an ideal growing environment for most eastern trees. We give
away F-1 cross American Chestnuts to all our customers and would like
to expand the range of other endangered species like the Eastern
Hemlock and soon to be Ash. Ren

On Feb 5, 1:26 pm, "Edward Frank" <edfr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ren,
>
> I emailed this on the 3rd, and perhaps this was unread in the shuffle. I want to add my support for the seed collection project you are proposing.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 4:34 pm
From: Ren

Beth, Send them and we'll see if we can get some sprouts for this
spring. Ren

On Feb 5, 7:56 pm, Beth Koebel <beth_koe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> They have been in the refrige since last Oct/Nov. I
> have checked and thrown any with weeval holes about
> every other week or so.

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