Growth Rings, WV   Fores-@aol.com
  Oct 11, 2006 14:28 PDT 
Bob:

I am probably a little more familiar on growth rings than most people
because of the number of stumps I have to look at in my work.

The maximum sustained growth rings I have seen on species in WV...by
sustained I would mean at least five consecutive years.... are

yellow poplar             1-1.1"      ------------------average .3"
red oak                        .8"       -------------------------- .4"
white oak                     .7"      --------------------------- .2"
scarlet oak                   .8"     ---------------------------- .3"
chestnut oak                .3"      ---------------------------- .1"
black oak                     .6"      -----------------------------.3"
sugar maple                 .5"       ---------------------------- .2"
red maple                    .6"       ---------------------------- .3"
white ash                     .7"      ---------------------------- .3"
eastern white pine      1.25"              ---------------------- .5"
sycamore                   .75"     ------------------------------.3"
hickory                        .3"      ----------------------------- .1"

In terms of slow average growers chestnut oak and hickory are worst.

A general rule of thumb here is that dominant red oak trees will grow an
average of 4" per decade in a "wild" unmanaged situation . 16" DBH red oak is
40 year, 20" is 50 years and 24" is generally over 60 years old.   There are
always exceptions like the 180 year old red oak that is 10" DBH and the 65
year old red oak that is 42" DBH.    I have found that under management 7.5 to 8"
per decade increment can be expected.

Here black oak can rival red oak in overall quality. Red and black oak
trees can be very tall and single stemmed trees of both species can produce clear
limb free stems for up to 65 feet although 50-60' is most common.

The biggest difference I have had to get used to since emigrating from New
England is how small the taper can be in several species of hardwood trees.

On really good sites white pine can probably beat out any other trees
growing in WV for both height and volume growth. There is supposed to be a white
pine plantation at Fernow experimental forest near Parsons, WV that is 70
years old and has 70,000 board feet per acre but that is the extreme end.   
However, I think that there are lots of places here where annual per acre volume
growth far exceeds 500 board feet per acre per year. Unfortunately, in spite
of impressive growth....and NO WHITE PINE WEEVILS...here it is largely looked
upon as a weed tree.

I think that in most situations white pine will out produce yellow poplar in
timber growth but I also think that the yield of high quality lumber will be
higher per acre for poplar than pine. It is not common in much of the state
and I sold my last white pine tree in a sale I marked in 2004. At Crummies
Creek we have two native eastern white pine trees but they are three miles
apart!


Russ

RE: More for Russ   Robert Leverett
  Oct 12, 2006 06:10 PDT 

Russ,

Very interesting. I am both surprised and not surprised at the
comparison of white pine to tulip poplar. I'm not surprised because I
see white pine outgrowing every other species here in New England. I am
surprised because tulip poplar eventually gets much larger than white
pine. They are both comparably long-lived. So at some point I presume
that white pine shuts down its rapid radial growth while tulip poplar
continues chugging along. It would be fascinating to see average growth
curves separately in terms of height, diameter, and aggregate volume
over time. I have a sneaking suspicion that we'd be surprised by some of
the trends.

Bob