R. B. Winter State Park, PA   Ernie Ostuno
  Aug 20, 2004 13:53 PDT 

I read in the pamphlet for the R.B. Winther State
Park that some of the tallest white pine ever cut in PA came out of that
area back in the logging days. They give heights of 200 feet and dbh of
6 feet. Supposedly the old stumps of the trees can still be found in the
park. I would like to go there someday and see if they look anywhere
near that big.

There is some old growth listed at that park:


But I think this area is mature second growth.


RE: Extreme damaging winds   Ernie Ostuno
  Aug 21, 2004 02:44 PDT 


About 5 years ago I was at R.B. Winter and I remember the naturalist
saying that there was no old growth there but that some of the forest
had recovered to the point that it was "mature second growth evolving
towards old growth". I think I actually walked the trail that goes
through the Rapid Run Natural Area. I don't recall seeing anything too
impressive there. I didn't find out about the stumps of the supposed 6
foot dbh white pines until later. 

I did come across some impressively
large stumps along the "Moss-hanne Trail" at Black Moshannon State Park.
I've always wondered if records were kept by the lumber companies of the
sizes (probably in the form of board feet of lumber from an individual
tree) of trees cut. Would it be possible to glean actual measurements of
height and girth of various tree species that were harvested way back in
the logging era? Or are word of mouth estimates going to be all we have?

I picked up a couple really interesting publications at the Pennsylvania
Lumber Museum up in Potter County that had information on railroad
logging era, including detailed histories of the Goodyear Lumber
Company. There's a photo of a huge hemlock log from about 1906, said to
be the largest hemlock ever cut up by the sawmills. In the photo it
looks to be close to 6 foot in diameter. I wonder if there are any other
historic photos showing how big the biggest of the hemlock and white
pine were in the original forest of Pennsylvania.