Return from Cook Forest   wad-@comcast.net
  Apr 23, 2007 18:01 PDT 
Dale

Nice job on the Cook meeting. I thoroughly enjoyed the Friday trip and the programs. Thanks.

On my way home I hit several big trees that I haven't measured before.

Dale do we have a 24 x 100 club?

Sycamore in Winfield Pa

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27.5 x 93.4 x 134.5 for a whopping 457 points. The largest tree I have ever measured!

Ferryboat campgrounds tulip poplar

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21.7 x 125.6 x 112 for 411 points. This ENTS measurement caused this tree to be the second biggest tulip in PA rather than first, as it was originally reported to be 138' tall. The new number one tree is 22.2 x 132.2 x 86.

Here is a silver maple in Harrisburg that has a questionable future. It is slated for demolition to make way for a parking lot for a new commercial building. Documenting this tree went along with a newspaper article intended to promote support for the tree. I hope the tree stands. A beautiful single stem to about 18', it measured 19.0 x 97.7 x 107 for 353 points making it a tri champ.

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I then drove through Linglestown and spotted another sycamore, Ready Dale?

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24.4 x 106.8 x 165.5   Is this the first 24 x 100 tree? the spread wasn't bad either. second in the northeast. 441 points.

The two sycamores are the largest ENTS measured sycamores in PA. There is only one other that beats them on the PA list and it is 31.1 x 102 x 122 for 506 points.

Not a bad drive home from and excellent event.



Scott
Back to Scott   Robert Leverett
  Apr 24, 2007 06:09 PDT 

Scott,

   Awesome PA sycamore finds. The 24 x 100 club is a pretty good way of
focusing attention on the really huge eastern trees. Alternatively, we
could create a 24 x 100 x 100 club to bring in the "maximum" crown
spread dimension. Many people relate to crown spread as much as they do
to circumference. Were we to elect to go with a 24 x 100 x 100 club,
Massachusetts would have 2 entries, both sycamores.

Name           Hgt    Cir   Spr

Sunderland     111.3 25.0   151
Hatfield       118.2 24.2   130     

   Sadly, CT's great Pinchot Sycamore misses the club by falling short
of 100 feet in height. Its current height is 97.3 feet. Its base is
probably buried in silt by a foot, but it won't make 100 even with a
generous allowance for a buried base. The Pinchot may eventually creep
up to 100, but it isn't there yet.

   Any big tree criteria that leaves the pride of Connecticut out of the
running would seem to be flawed. The perplexing question of cutoffs
always rears its head. Nonetheless, I would vote for 24 x 100 x 100. Any
thoughts?

Bob
RE: Back to Scott   Gary A. Beluzo
  Apr 24, 2007 06:14 PDT 

Bob:

Given that 24 x 100 x 100 is arbitrary (mostly convenient for a species with
10 metacarpels) any cutoff you suggest is going to leave somebody (tree
and/or state) out.

I vote for 24 x 100 x 100.

Gary
24 X 100 X 100 club   beth koebel
  Apr 24, 2007 07:35 PDT 

ENTS,

I think that is a great idea. Illinois would still hang on as eastern
cottonwood 24.6 x 133 x 113 and our sycamore is 31 x 119 x 134.

Beth
Re: Back to Scott   wad-@comcast.net
  Apr 24, 2007 07:56 PDT 
Bob

24 x 100 x 100 sounds like a good idea. I will have to see how many Pa trees fit the bill. I wonder if Live Oak Larry has any down his way? I will send pics of the trees to Ed tonight.

The silver maple I mentioned is apparently drawing attention. Newspaper articles and TV reports are all over the news in Harrisburg due to my visit and the work of Sierra Bingham, who lives next to the tree. The builder has asked to speak to me about the tree. It sounds like there is hope in saving it.

Scott
RE: Back to Scott   tuce-@msn.com
  Apr 24, 2007 13:17 PDT 

Scott, ENTS,                                                          

We maybe could locate a 24x100x100, our club here would be more like
30x45x140. That is the Live Oak Club. We get great spreads, and cir., but
lack the heights. To date the largest tree I've measured was 45' Height,
37' CBH and 170' Spread. A magnificent tree, The E.O. Hunt Live Oak. A
Cypress, Red Oak, White Oak or Gum might make the northern 24x100x100
club. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Sounds like you guys had a great time at
Cook. Awesome sycamores! Our trees down here have been cut so much they
don't get a chance to reach those potentials. There are some big trees
around but are far and few between. 

Larry