RE: New PA champion red oak found in suburbia!!   wad-@comcast.net
  Nov 20, 2005 13:54 PST 
ENTS

A NEW CHAMPION RED OAK HAS BEEN FOUND!!!! This tree will put to rest any co-champion hopes. For now, anyway. Initially I was introduced to this other red oak. The story goes like this......Today I was asked to transplant one of my Japanese maples from my yard to a neighbor's Mother in laws house in Broomall Pa.(high density suburbia) I unknowingly was working in the front yard while a forest Monarch lurked in the back yard. the lot can't be more than a half acre. My children were playing in a "big tree" in the back while I dug. I decided to go around and have a look. "Holy cow!" I said out loud, "Why didn't you tell me about this?" I asked my friend Dave. His wife said the tree was named Henrietta when she was a child. We returned in about 30 minutes with my measuring gear. The site is a 1950's development with cul de sacs and winding streets. There is a small spring up hill from the site, and there were large trees all along this 20' wide save area. I measured the oak, a white oak, and a beech

Q. rubra   226 cbh 103' tall 68' avg spread (exact tie with the Media oak @ 246 pts)
Q. alba 12.1x85.5
F. grandifolia 10.8x 83.5
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Very satisfied with this tree, we decided to follow this narrow band of woods through the development. Dave said "look at that one" He saw the top of another oak, holding it's leaves. We drove around to where we could see the tree. Well this tree has set a new standard!

Q. rubra 242" cbh 124' tall 94' spread for a whopping 390 points!!!

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Both trees were forest grown trees, hollow, and saved in the early 50's from destruction. Wow what a tree! I will be returning to this area soon to see what else lurks in these back yards.   I am sending pics to Ed.

Scott

Re: Pa 12x130 tree to add (Dale)   wad-@comcast.net
  Nov 20, 2005 14:46 PST 
ENTS, Dale

In my excitement over the red oaks, I forgot to add a 12x130 tree to the Pa list. In Media in Middletown Twp, Delaware county. I measured a Tulip poplar in the back yard of a 1960's home.

The Viro poplar came out to:

12.2 cbh 133.3' tall 70' avg spread.

Scott
Re: New PA champion red oak found in suburbia!!   wad-@comcast.net
  Nov 23, 2005 12:45 PST 
Jess

The area has alot of trees that are 24"dbh and better. I am sure this was prime farmland at one point in time. Some of the early houses in the area date to the early 1700's. The first oak was supposed to be a 346 point tree, not 246. It was growing in a small stream (jumpable) that came from a spring about 100 yds away. Constant water was a factor I imagine. The bigger oak was on a slope that was too steep to farm. Other than that nothing jumped out at me. I hope to return there soon and go through the neighborhood on foot. I will do a RI on the site, and we will see what we get. I didn't have a ton of time when We found the tree.

Thanks for your report the other day, I always enjoy reading your detailed analyses.

Scott

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  Scott,

What a huge northern red oak. Nice find! Do any of the other species
in the area indicate a particularly rich site? What other factors,
besides being left alone, appear to have contributed to the trees
great size? I'm looking forward to seeing some photos.

Jess