Green Hills Cemetery Trees, Ashville, NC  

TOPIC: Green Hills Cemetery Trees_Asheville NC

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 8:53 pm
From: James Parton


Today Joy and I visited Green Hills Cemetery since some of our
relatives were laid to rest here. This place has some really pretty
trees and is landscaped very well. One of the tallest Apple trees that
I have seen is here. It reminded me of the discussion on Apple trees
that we had just a short time back. Check out measurements.

CBH Height

Apple 3' 3 1/2" 49.29'!

Catalpa 11' 4 1/4" 75.05'

Catalpa 10' 5 1/2" 71.51'

Southern Magnolia 54.82'

Does anyone know how big Catalpa can get? These are the biggest ones
I have seen.

James Parton

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 9:11 pm
From: "Edward Frank"


From Jess Riddle's List:

Catalpa speciosa Northern Catalpa Circumference 133 Open Vanderbilt Estate Hudson River
Catalpa speciosa Northern Catalpa Height  95.5 Open Vanderbilt Estate Hudson River

Scott Wade measured a good sized southern catalpa in SE Pennsylvania:

Southern Catalpa
Catalpa bignonioides measured: 2004 Girth 271 Height 68 Spread 75 AF Points: 358
Washington Ave., Wycombe, ENTS Method Scott Wade, Meg Varnes, Bucks County

From the American Forests Registry (Data quality unknown):

Northern Catalpa speciosa 2003 Girth 293 Height  82 Spread 90 Points397 Vanderburgh, IN Thomas E Westfall
Southern Catalpa bignonioides 2000 Girth 271 Height 88 Spread 68 Points 376 Yalobusha Co., MS J Ferguson, J Edwards, G Byrd

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 9:29 pm
From: James Parton


How do you tell the difference between Southern and Northern Catalpa?
For years I thought Palownia was a type of Catalpa but found out they
are a different species. They are naturalized in alot of areas around
here. They have very fragrant purple blossoms in May.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 10:07 pm
From: "Edward Frank"


I have encountered a number of Catalpas in the field and have never been sure how to distinguish them. Your question sent me on an internet quest to find an answer, with somewhat mixed results. I did find a Key and some general comments about the two species. Maybe someone else can give you a more definitive answer, but this is what I found:


Flower/Fruit: Upright panicle of white, bell shaped flowers with orange strips and purple spots and strips.

Leaves are simple, large ovate to ovate-oblong, from 8 to 12 inches long, are heart-shaped tropical looking without any lobes and are yellowish green in color. Leaves are generally opposite on large branches and often whorled in 3 on young stems. They turn an undistinguished yellow in the fall before dropping.


Flowers: 6 to 12" panicle of white bell shaped flowers with two rows and ridges of yellow spots and numerous purple spots in early summer Flowers later than C. speciosa and has more purple color.

Leaves are simple, may be opposite or whorled (3 per node), pinnately veined, 5 to 12 inches long , 4 to 6 inches broad, heart shaped at the base, and have a long petiole with entire margins and soft pubescence on the underside, which is also a lighter green than the top surface.


Key to Catalpa Species
I. Leaves are 6-12 inches (15-301/2 cm) long with acuminate leaf tips. Foliage has no odor when crushed. Flowers are white with yellow-striped or brown-dotted throats. Flowers are borne in comparatively small terminal panicles. Flowers open in June.
Catalpa speciosa-Northern Catalpa
II. Leaves are 4-8 inches (10-20 cm) long with abruptly acuminate leaf tips. Foliage has an unpleasant odor when crushed. Flowers are white with yellow stripes and brown dots in the throat. Flowers are borne in many-flowered clusters and open in June and July.
Catalpa bignonioides-Southern Catalpa

------------------------------------------------ Northern Catalpa

Edward Frank

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 10:26 pm
From: James Parton


Thanks for the research. I will have to study this myself.