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Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 1:28 pm
From: dbhguru@comcast.net


ENTS,

My quest for large New England white pines continues. Today Monica, Doug Seale, Emarie Pope, and I visited the property of the old Berkshire Snow Basin ski area on our return from Windsor Jambs. On the side of an adjacent ridge to the ski slopes a large white, old white pine that clearly stands out. Monica spotted it on our way to the Jambs. On our return, I had to check it out. We found a convenient parking spot and climbed a moderately steep slope up to the pine. It measures 13.1 feet in girth and is 128.3 feet tall. That is another pine in the above 13 feet in diameter list.
I also remeasured the Sobon Pine in Windsor SF. I got to a better vantage point and found a slightly higher sprig. I also got a better girth measurement. The big pine's stats are girth = 13.6 feet, height = 137.8 feet. I'm coming to recognize thate the Berkshire Trail (State Route 9) has potentially many large old field pines, though widely scattered. Hunting them down is a lot of fun. The search will continue.

Bob

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 7:24 am
From: James Parton


Bob,

I did not realize that we had a list for White Pine 13ft cbh or
larger. I have one submission. A huge field pine at the Kellogg
Conference Center in Hendersonville NC. I took Will there last year
and he measured it at 59 inches in diameter! It was measured below
the confluence of some huge limbs ( Actually upward growing
reiterations ). Will did mention that below the limbs it looked like a
single trunk. The cbh of this tree should be over 15 feet!

I know of another that might reach at least close to 13ft cbh. A big
white near the walking trail in Fletcher Park NC. I hope to get up to
measure that one soon.

Outstanding tall White Pines are recognised by ENTS with ones 150 and
over being outstanding. I like the idea of a list 13ft cbh or bigger
as well. Some tall white pines are also of outstanding girth but even
the Boogerman Pine and Mountain Mama of Cataloochee Valley are a
little less than 13ft cbh. Big girthed trees are not always of
outstanding height.

James Parton.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 12:43 pm
From: "Will Blozan"

Bob,

Don't forget to check the Conway Pine.

Will F. Blozan

President, Eastern Native Tree Society
President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 1:02 pm
From: Kevin French


New to the site, have you tried Bradford (NH) Tall Pines

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=4b4437a5-5415-4301-a3f1-6b73709fb711

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 2:40 pm
From: dbhguru@comcast.net

Kevin,

Yes indeed. I've measured every one of the Bradford Pines including the "Bradford Pine" before it started dying back.

Bob

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Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 5:57 am
From: dbhguru@comcast.net


James,

The big pine list is one I have fiddled around with for several years with no concrete purpose in mind and often with changing criteria. However, it has taken on new importance with the concept of heritage trees that I'm trying to promote as part of a forest protection plan for certain wooded properties that lie in largely urban-surburban zones. Here in the fairly populous Connecticut River Valley, the Mount Tom and Mount Holyoke Ranges are examples of such properties.
The 13-foot threshhold is one I've only recently adopted to isolate the truly large pines. I have a master list developing that includes pines that meet one of 3 criteria:

1. Girth >= 12.0 feet
2. Height >= 150 feet
3. ENTS Pts >= 1500

This criteria is okay for the time being. If we include too many trees, the list loses impact. We can always choose a stricter criteria to match whatever title we bestow such as "Heritage Tree". In these days of electronic spreadsheets and database software, producing lists presents no burden. The operative challenge is to collect the data.

Bob

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Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 2:46 pm
From: James Parton

Bob,

13 ft girth white pine is rare here and I doubt they are relatively
common anywhere. I like the idea of a list of outstanding white pines.
Both tall and large in girth.

JP