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TOPIC: Cataloochee HWA death photo
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Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 9:02 am
From: "Will Blozan"
ENTS,
Here are some aerial photos taken yesterday, HALLOWEEN, in
Cataloochee, NC
GRSM. Scary, huh?
Needless to say, as a dominant species, hemlock has been eradicated.
Will
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Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 3:10 pm
From: "Will Blozan"
ENTS and others,
In conjunction with Back 40 Films in Charlotte, NC, I have embarked
on
filming a documentary about the impacts of hemlock woolly adelgid in
the
southern Appalachians. The intent is to illustrate the deadly
seriousness of
the pest, what has been done well and not so well, and what land
managers in
other states can do to prepare for and manage their hemlock
resources. I
won't go into my passion for the species and topic as that is
obvious.
Getting the word out and spurring responsible folks into action will
be the
sole salvation of representative stands of hemlock. We have lost the
"best"
of the hemlocks in the Smokies, which I feel can safely be
extrapolated to
the world's population of Tsuga canadensis, but this fate does not
have to
be the same for those trees outside of the current range of HWA.
This is the
message we want to present. Some stills from the shoot so far can be
seen at
this link:
http://www.back40films.com/
Just go to the gallery section and select photos from "The
Vanishing
Hemlock". This is a working title, and non-profit status for
funding the
film is pending. A fund raising campaign is about to commence as
well as
more days of shooting and interviews.
More to come, but that is the gist of the story.
Will
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Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 12:24 pm
From: "Mike Leonard"
Nice shots Will. Aerial photos like these are the best ways to show
the
dramatic impact of HWA.
So what now for these skeletonized forests? Would underplanting with
shade tolerant conifers (Norway spruce) help to restore some of the
ecosystem functions that hemlock provided? - Mike
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 1:34 pm
From: dendrophile@verizon.net
Ugh.
I recently went back to McKee branch in Cataloochee after only a
couple of years, and what had been fairly healthy though infested
hemlock forest looked just like these photos. Maybe one of those
photos is of McKee, it's hard to tell...
Very sad.
Mike
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 2:38 pm
From: Josh
Mike,
I would much rather see natural regen on public lands, especially
national parks like the smokies. Studying how these places respond
to
disturbances (see Frelich and Reich on old-growth) is perhaps the
most
salient research that can be done in areas of primary hemlock
forest.
I think that the loss of year round shade that hemlock provided will
be devastating though, and perhaps there is a place for red spruce
planting as a surogate.
Josh
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 3:36 pm
From: JamesRobertSmith
That's truly hideous. Of course the whole area around Joyce Kilmer
has
looked like that for quite a while. It's horrifying to witness the
total destruction of the hemlock ecosystem. Now we can just wait and
watch to see what happens next. What's going to fill in the forest
in
the place of the hemlocks? How is it going to effect the animals who
had been dependent on them? What's going to grow in the creekside
locations where hemlocks were dominant?
Good grief, it is so depressing to see those photographs.
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 5:33 am
From: "Joseph Zorzin"
Why any particular species is growing in any particular place is a
combination of microenvironment, land use history and luck. The one
classic niche for hemlock is stream gorges due to cold air and low
light- since the species is tolerant to both. When the trees die-
almost any species common in the area could replace them depending
on local conditions- most likely, if the opening in the canopy is
small, it's likely that yellow birch or beech (both very shade
tolerant) will come in. With large openings, almost anything is
possible.
Regarding replacement species- the only ones that should be looked
at are ones that fill that unique hemlock niche, stream gorges- but
it's unlikely that an introduced species could compete with native
species. Few if any tree species have "escaped". I wish
that Norway Spruce would "get away" as I like it.
One thing that foresters are supposed to get a sense of- but it
takes years to do- is answer the following question, "what will
happen to the forest if I do the following silvicultural treatment
.....". So we should be able to predict this sort of thing
given local conditions.
My bet is that the HWA will not spread to the entire range of the
species- and that eventually the HWA itself will decline- and
hemlock will make a comeback in areas where it "lost
ground". Speeding up this process may necessitate heavy
thinning of hemlock stands leaving the trees that show resistance.
Joe
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:58 PM
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Cataloochee HWA death photo
Will,
Has anyone organized a project to monitor the decay of the
hemlock skeleton
forests and see what trees grow and what other species proliferate
to
repopulate the understory and canopy of these lost hemlock forests?
I think
it would be a worthwhile project to monitor what is happening
naturally in
areas that are not replanted artificially.
Ed Frank
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 5:33 am
From: "Will Blozan"
ED,
I know of no formal studies but I am sure something will be done.
However,
it will likely not be by NPS personnel. If so, I will be shocked. I
read a
paper that predicted the change but don't know of specific plans now
that
HWA has done its deed.
The NPS has elk, deer, hog, and trout exclosures to study the
effects of
these creatures on the ecosystems. I wonder why they don't have an
HWA
exclosure for the same purpose? Too late now.
Will
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 6 2007 2:56 am
From: "Mike Leonard"
Ed,
There are ongoing studies at Harvard Forest:
http://harvardforest.fas.harvard.edu/research/hwa.html
In the North Quabbin, hardwoods like black birch, red maple, and
some
red oak would regenerate.
Mike
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 6:46 am
From: "Will Blozan"
I'd love to. A world-wide Tsuga Search!
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Date: Thurs, Nov 8 2007 7:10 pm
From: Chuck
Will,
In Citico Creek Wilderness many of the large hemlocks are still
alive,
but just barely. And yes, many have already died. But one thing I
notice is that there are still many small living hemlocks in the
understory. I wonder if that is the case in Catalooche. If so then
maybe some of the remaining small ones could be treated. What do you
think?
Chuck
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 8 2007 7:24 pm
From: Chuck
Ents,
Someone was talking about thinning the hemlocks to prevent HWA
spread. This is really easy to do: You just pick the ones you want
to keep, treat those and then stand back and watch. The HWA will
thin
out the rest. Kind of sick humor. But I know what you meant. But
driving around on the Cherohala Skyway you will find areas where
there
are isolated single trees or small groups and they are just as dead
as
the ones in the big stands.
chuck
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Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 6:21 am
From: "Will Blozan"
Good observation!
Yes, I have thought for a while that the understory may be the key
to
restoring these hemlock forests, provided they survive the carnage
of
falling debris. By the time they grow to reproductive age the HWA
should be
long gone. All the ~100% canopy killed areas I have seen have living
and
salvageable saplings in the understory. At this point they are just
serving
a HWA reservoirs.
The treatment costs to save the trees would be minimal, and would
entirely
eliminate the need for underplanting a new forest. And yes, I have
suggested
this to the Park Service.
The main concern is that the growth rates of the surrounding birch,
tuliptree, lianas etc. would far exceed that of the hemlocks and
they may be
instantly returned to a suppressed (non-reproductive) status.
Will
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 8:41 am
From: Larry
Will, Have you had time do figure out how many acres of forest is
affected by HWA? How can we as members of ENTS help you? Larry
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 8:55 am
From: "Will Blozan"
Larry,
I don't know how many acres are affected and I don't really see a
need to
know. My mission now is to spread the word about this pest, how
serious it
is and what can be done. The documentary film project seems to be
the
fastest and widest reaching way to do this. Personally, I think
National
Geographic should do an article on HWA, as that would reach millions
of
people. Then, a piece on NG Explorer of Discovery channel would do
wonders
to educate.
I am not sure how ENTS can help. As an unfunded, informal group we
have no
real monetary resources but we do have lots of contacts. Spread the
word!
Will
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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 5:49 am
From: Michael Davie
I'm wondering what it was like to fly over the park like that? Other
than the depressing part of seeing vast hemlock forests dead, I know
years ago we had talked about how interesting it would be to fly
over
and see places from the air. Did you get any particular impressions
from above, or see places that looked interesting that you had not
been? Did you happen to pass over Sag Branch and see the tuliptree,
for example, or were you able to figure out where you were very
easily? Maybe you had to quickly get in and film and get out, but
I'm
curious if you were able to get new insight from a new perpective.
Mike
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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 7:18 am
From: "Will Blozan"
Mike,
Due to weight and space restrictions I was unable to fly on the
Cataloochee
overflight. I was really bummed but was able to put together the
flight
lines for the shot. I have not yet seen the raw footage yet but am
excited
to do so. It will offer some great insight I'm sure. If I can get
the raw
footage compressed small enough to put on DVD I'd be glad to give
you a
copy. I think the NPS should get it as well.
As I imagine you would be as well, I envision myself as a kid in a
candy
store in the cockpit of that helicopter- wanting to see everything
and look
for those trees we have known so long. The flight would have been
entirely
too short!
Will
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Date: Thurs, Nov 15 2007 10:17 pm
From: zacstew@bellsouth.net
ENTS,
I've been closely following the developments in the HWA wars, and
it's so depressing and sad I can barely look at the pictures or read
the text. When I went to the Smokies in September, it was very
sickening, seeing all the dead hemlocks, and knowing that it wasn't
like that only a few years ago... that being said, and hoping this
isn't off-subject, is there any recent good news at all regarding
the progress of battling the adelgid? Are the trees at Jim Branch
and other treated groves still doing well? What can I do to help
bring the tragic story of HWA to the largely unaware public (at
least locally) to increase support for battling this dreaded scourge
of the Eastern forest? What chance do the hemlocks in the Sipsey
Wilderness stand at surviving or evading the infestation? I
sincerely hope that there will soon be a major breakthrough in the
battle against HWA, finally turning the tide to the good guys' side
(yeah, that rhymes) ... although that hope is a largely forlorn one,
ther
e is always a sliver of a chance that it could happen... and that's
a hope worth holding on to.
~ Zac
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