ENTS Maximum Ages for Eastern Trees
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The oldest official counts for ages of eastern trees are posted on
Neil Pederson's Eastern OLD-List. Of the 310 species listed in eastern
US (Audubon Field Guide), only 54 have "official" cross-dated
ages. I want to collect ages from as many of the other species as
possible from ring counts on stumps and cores. So I am asking ENTS
members count everything you find, write down your information on where,
when, who, and how and send them to me. Check on the current age
listings on Neil's website: http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~adk/oldlisteast/
for the most detailed information.
At this stage the primary goal is to collect ring count ages from any
tree that is not on Neil Pederson's Eastern Old-List
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~adk/oldlisteast/Spp/THOC.html . In addition
I would like to include any tree ring counts that exceed the maximum
ages that appear on the list, or that are comparable in age to those
appearing on the list. There is some inherent inaccuracies with ring counts. There may be
false rings or missing rings, but these limitations are understood
within the context of the methodology. They are trivial compared to the
degree of error in field guides. Better age range information will be
valuable when considering the ecology and history of the small patches
of old growth we are finding and documenting.
For foresters and field people there will be a tenancy to not count
rings on some stumps because you "know" there are older
examples out there that you have seen. However at this point, there is
such a paucity of good numbers, I would encourage you to count what you
find. If we get older counts later so much the better, but the goal now
is to get something more reasonable. Along access roads there may be
shrub-sized species, like witch hazel for example, cut that are not
normally harvested. Numbers for these species would be useful also.
A next step for the project, and one that can begin simultaneously,
is the use of all collected data, both for "new" species and
for old, to plot the ages known for various forests, and forest
sections. This will allow a development of a beginning geographic data
base of the age of various forests, and allow us to better understand
and investigate the age structure of forest we are visiting and
investigating.
Listing as an .xls file ENTS Maximum
Age List
Edward Frank
Common
Name |
Species
Name |
Age
Count |
Eastern
OLD-List |
Age
Category |
Location |
Sample
Type |
Date
Counted |
Collector |
Comments |
Alternate-leaf dogwood |
|
24 |
|
|
GSMNP, TN |
core ring count |
2006-2007 |
Riddle and Blozan |
Tsuga Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Striped Maple |
Acer pensylvanicum |
99 |
|
|
GSMNP |
core ring count |
`1993 |
Blozan |
http://www.ents-bbs.org/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=5356#p23390 |
American
Basswood |
Tilia
americana |
122
|
|
|
Zoar
Valley, NY |
RC-
Complete core |
|
Diggins |
Bulletin
of ENTS, Summer 2007 (*2) |
American Basswood |
Tilia
americana |
242 |
|
|
Liverpool Maple Grove, Onondaga Co., NY |
RC- log cross-section |
04/23/2003 |
Howard and Henry |
38 feet from base, center was hollow
http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/browse_thread/thread/190d8c086cc00a9c?hl=en |
American Basswood |
Tilia
americana |
240 |
|
|
Green Lake State Park, Onondaga Vo., NY |
RC- log cross-section |
2002-2003 |
Howard |
Basswood(?) log .8’ radius
http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/browse_thread/thread/e70ed39d72cc390f/4342483a7fcfa45e?hl=en#4342483a7fcfa45e
|
American
Beech |
Fagus
grandifolia |
366 |
204 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
American
Beech |
Fagus
grandifolia |
233
|
204 |
|
Zoar
Valley, NY |
RC-
Complete core |
|
Diggins |
Bulletin
of ENTS, Summer 2007 (*2) |
American
Beech |
Fagus
grandifolia |
230 |
|
|
Green Lake State park, Onondaga Co., NY |
RC- log cross-section |
2002-2003 |
Howard |
30' above base
http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/browse_thread/thread/e70ed39d72cc390f/4342483a7fcfa45e?hl=en#4342483a7fcfa45e |
American
Beech |
Fagus
grandifolia |
240 |
|
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Green Lake State Park, Onondaga Co., NY |
RC- log cross-section |
2002-2003 |
Howard |
http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/browse_thread/thread/e70ed39d72cc390f/4342483a7fcfa45e?hl=en#4342483a7fcfa45e |
American
Beech |
Fagus
grandifolia |
275 |
|
|
Cook Forest State Park, PA |
core ring count |
1996 |
Abrams and Orwig |
forest cathedral area (*7) |
American Elm |
Ulmus americana |
217 |
|
VO |
Yarmouth Maine |
RC - log cross-section |
2010 |
Maine Forest Service’s Pete Lammert and Jan Ames Santerre |
Herbie the Elm
http://www.yarmouthcommunityservices.org/Herbie.html#artists |
Biltmore
Ash |
Fraxinus
americana L. |
107+ |
|
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Stateline
Slopes - Pigeon River Gorge, TN |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
dry
oak-pine forest |
Bitternut
Hickory |
Carya
cordiformes |
110+ |
|
|
Green
Knob Slopes, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
high
elevation red oak forest |
Bitternut
Hickory |
Carya
cordiformes |
143+ |
|
|
Pigeon
River Gorge, TN |
core
ring count (partial) |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
rich
cove forest |
Bitternut
Hickory |
Carya
cordiformes |
168+ |
|
|
Black
Mountains, NC |
Core
ring count |
|
Josh
Kelly |
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Bitternut
Hickory |
Carya
cordiformis |
178 |
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East
Fork Chattooga River, SC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Bitternut
Hickory |
Carya
cordiformis |
167
|
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Zoar
Valley, NY |
RC-In
complete core |
|
Diggins |
Bulletin
of ENTS, Summer 2007 (*2) |
Black
(Sweet) Birch |
Betula
lenta |
378 |
|
VO |
Wright
Tract, NC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm
[E. OLD-List 361] |
Black
Birch |
Betula
nigra |
156 |
|
|
Zoar
Valley, NY |
RC-
Complete core |
|
Diggins |
Bulletin
of ENTS, Summer 2007 (*2) |
Black
Cherry |
Prunus
serotine |
167+ |
|
|
Upper
Jones Creek, NC |
core ring
count (partial) |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
northern
hardwood forest |
Black
Cherry |
Prunus
serotine |
258 |
|
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
Black
Locust |
Robinia
pseudoacacia |
146 |
|
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Joyce
Kilmer Wilderness Area, NC |
Trail
cut log |
|
Riddle |
Tsuga Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Black
Oak |
Quercus
velutina |
187+ |
257 |
|
Milksick
Knob, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
montane
oak-hickory forest |
Black
Oak |
Quercus
velutina |
176 |
257 |
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Srs
of St. Francis, Philadelphia PA |
ring
count |
2007 |
Scott
Wade |
(*5) |
Carolina
Hemlock |
Tsuga
caroliniana |
91+ |
307 |
|
Shope
Creek Oak-Carolina Hemlock forest |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
91 years in 20 cm. montane oak forest |
Chestnut
Oak |
Quercus
montana |
331+ |
427 |
|
Ed
Top, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
chestnut
oak forest |
Chestnut
Oak |
Quercus
montana |
352+ |
427 |
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North
of Nolichuck River, TN |
core
ring count |
|
Josh
Kelly |
|
Chestnut
Oak |
Quercus
montana |
377+ |
427 |
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Wildes
Knob, NC |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
chestnut
oak forest |
Cucumber
Magnolia |
Magnolia
acuminata |
436 |
348 |
|
Cook
Forest State Park, PA |
cookie
ring count (Pederson) |
2003 |
Luthringer |
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/penna_cook_forest/cook_nov18_2005/cook_forest_cucumber.htm |
Devil's
Walking Stick |
Aralia
spinosa |
32 |
|
|
GSMNP,
NC |
trail
cut |
2007 |
Riddle |
25"
cbh http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/sumac_cookie.htm |
Eastern
Cottonwood |
Populus
deltoids |
116
|
|
|
Zoar
Valley, NY |
RC-
Complete core |
|
Diggins |
Bulletin
of ENTS, Summer 2007 (*2) |
Eastern
Hemlock |
Tsuga
canadiensis |
308+ |
555 |
|
Shinbone
Creek Ridge, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
acidic
cove forest |
Eastern
Hemlock |
Tsuga
canadiensis |
310+ |
555 |
|
Maple
Bald Creek, NC |
core
ring count |
|
Josh
Kelly |
|
Eastern
Hemlock |
Tsuga
canadiensis |
329+ |
555 |
|
Pigeon
River Gorge, TN |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
rich
low elevation cove forest |
Eastern
hemlock |
Tsuga
canadiensis |
536 |
555 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
Eastern
Hophornbeam |
Ostrya
virginiana |
50* |
|
|
GSMNP,
TN |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Fraser
Magnolia |
Magnolia
fraseri |
130 |
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GSMNP,
NC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Live
Oak |
Quercus
virginiana |
134 |
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South
Mississippi |
cross-section |
|
Tucei
Pederson |
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/mississippi/liveoak_ages/live_oak_ages.htm |
Mockernut
Hickory |
Carya
alba (tometosa) |
202 |
|
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Srs
of St. Francis, Philadelphia PA |
ring
count |
2007 |
Scott
Wade |
(*5) |
Mountain
Winterberry |
Ilex
montana |
78* |
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GSMNP,
TN |
core
ring countt |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Norway
Spruce |
Picea
abies |
172 |
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Srs
of St. Francis, Philadelphia PA |
ring
count |
|
Scott
Wade |
(*5) |
Red
Maple |
Acer
rubrum |
310 |
300 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
Rosebay
Rhododendron |
Rhododendron
maximum L. |
134* |
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GSMNP,
NC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Projecthttp://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Silverbell |
Halesia
carolina |
197 |
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GSMNP,
TN |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Sourwood |
Oxydendrum
arboreum |
136* |
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GSMNP,
NC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Staghorn
Sumac |
Rhus
typhina |
21 |
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Prescottville,
PA |
cross-section |
2006 |
Frank |
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/sumac_cookie.htm |
Striped
Maple |
Acer
pensylvanicum L. |
69 |
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GSMNP,
NC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
Sugar
Maple |
Acer
sacchrum |
243 |
280 |
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Erie.
PA |
ring
count incomplete |
2007 |
Dale
Luthringer |
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/penna/erie_big/erie_big_tree_tour.htm
(*4) |
Sugar
maple |
Acer
saccharum |
420 |
280 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
Tulip
Poplar |
Liriodendron
tulipifera |
377 |
509 |
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Laurel
Knob, NC |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
rich
cove forest |
White
Ash |
Fraxinus
americana |
141 |
136 |
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GSMNP,
TN |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
White
Ash |
Fraxinus
americana |
158+ |
136 |
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Upper
Jones Creek, NC |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
northern
hardwood forest |
White
Ash |
Fraxinus
americana |
260 |
136 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
White
Basswood |
Tilia
heterophylla |
154 |
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GSMNP,
NC |
core
ring count |
2006-07 |
Riddle
and Blozan |
Tsuga
Search Project http://www.nativetreesociety.org/dendro/maximum_ages_for_eastern_trees.htm |
White
Oak |
Quercus
alba |
300+ |
464 |
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Shope
Knob, NC |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
[E.
OLD-List 464] |
White
Oak |
Quercus
alba |
305+ |
464 |
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Milksick
Knob, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
montane
oak-hickory forest |
White
Oak |
Quercus
alba |
320+ |
464 |
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Beauty
Spot Slopes, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
high
elevation red oak forest |
White
Oak |
Quercus
alba |
336+ |
464 |
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Flint
Mountain, NC |
core
ring count |
|
Josh
kelly |
|
White
Oak |
Quercus
alba |
338+ |
464 |
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Upper
Yougs Camp, NC |
core
ring count |
2007 |
Josh
Kelly |
montane
oak-hickory forest |
White
Oak |
Quercus
alba |
276+ |
464 |
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Cliff
Ridge, NC |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
montane
oak hickory |
White
Pine |
Pinus
strobus |
370 |
409 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
Yellow
Birch |
Betula
alleghaniensis |
366 |
387 |
VO |
Tionesta,
PA |
|
~1943 |
|
Hough
and Forbes, 1943 (*1) |
Yellow
Buckeye |
Aeseulus
flava |
287+ |
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Laurel
Knob, NC |
core
ring count |
2006 |
Josh
Kelly |
http://primalnature.org/Laurel_Knob.pdf
(*3) |
Shingle
Oak |
Quercus imbricaria |
107 |
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West
Virginia |
Stump
Count |
2008 |
Turner
Sharp |
report |
Virginia Creeper |
Parthenocissus quinquefolia, (L.)
Planchon |
`28 |
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Old |
Congaree NP, SC |
core ring count |
2006 |
Bruce Allen |
(*6) |
Poison Ivy |
Toxicodendron radicans (L.) Kuntze |
58 |
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VO |
Congaree NP, SC |
core ring count |
2006 |
Bruce Allen |
(*6) |
Trumpet Creeper |
Campsis radicans (L.) Seemann |
38 |
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VO |
Congaree NP, SC |
core ring count |
2006 |
Bruce Allen |
(*6) |
Cross Vine |
Bignonia capriolata |
16 |
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Old |
Congaree NP, SC |
core ring count |
2006 |
Bruce Allen |
(*6) |
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Notes:
(*1) The Ecology and Silvics of Forest in the High Plateaus of
Pennsylvania by A.F. Hough and R. D. Forbes, Ecological Monographs, Vol
13, No. 3, July 1943
(*2) A Survey of Core-based Species Maximum Age Estimates in the Zoar Valley, Western New York State. Thomas P. Diggins, Department of Biological Sciences, Youngstown State University,
Bulletin of the Eastern Native Tree
Society, Volume 2, Issue 3,Summer 2007.
(*3) Laurel Knob, NC. Josh Kelly, 2007. in http://primalnature.org/Laurel_Knob.pdf
accessed Jan 12,2008.
(*4) The past, now dead, state champion sugar maple, affectionately
named 'The Elephant Tree' had ~243 rings to a 0.5" punky center at
9.6ft up from its base. At 9.6ft up, it was 5.3ft across. It
went to 823ft^3 of actual taped volume in a 44.5ft log!
(*5) Here is a short list I have from my experience. Mockernut
Hickory 202 RC (All trees are from the Srs of St Francis
grounds) Black Oak 176 RC. Bitternut Hickory 262
extrapolated. Norway Spruce 172 RC. Scott Wade, January 13,
2008
(*6) Measurements were art of Bruce P. Allen's PhD thesis research
http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/view.cgi?acc_num=osu1179427491
Vegetation dynamics and response to disturbance of
floodplain forest ecosystems with a focus on lianas reported
in a discussion to the ENTS list January 1, 2009
(*7) Abrams, Marc. D. and Orwig, David A., 1996. A 300-year
history of disturbance and canopy recruitment for co-occurring white
pine and hemlock on the Allegheny Plateau, PA. Journal of Ecology
(1996) 84:353-363.
Collection Form:
The following information would be needed:
1) Species name:
2) Location: Include name of forest, address (if applicable) county,
state, GPS (if known):
3) Date of field sampling/counting:
4) Type of sampling;
a) Field count of tree stump or log
b) Field count of increment borer core
c) laboratory count of tree cross-section
d) laboratory count of increment borer core
e) Other method - please describe
5) Was a sample collected and if so, what is its disposition?
6) Diameter of tree:
7) Is the sample complete or partial:
6) Collector Name and address, phone, email:
7) Is the tree still alive or is it dead? (Living, Snag, Stump, Log,
Remnant)
8) Description of the site, associated trees, land use history, etc.
9) Site Code (if applicable)
10) Photographs of the sample/sample area: yes or no.
11) Age character/category:
.Age Category Definitions
This category deals with the apparent age of the specimen as
interpreted by the collector. There are three
broad categories of age
information that might be obtained from stumps or dendro cores. I would
leave it up
to the person doing the collecting or counting to provide a judgment
of which category in which to place the sample
1) Late Mature: This specimen represents an old tree, but trees in
this age range are not uncommon.
2) Old tree: This specimen represents a tree that is uncommonly old for
the species.
3) Very old: This specimen may be approaching the maximum age possible
for the species.
4) Not categorized / Unknown
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